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You Are So Wrong

by Jason

Your comments on how football requires much less "skill" than basketball is ignorant. You're comparison of vertical jumps of NFL players being superior to NBA players strictly because all football players have to worry about is training their bodies to achieve a high vertical jump.

The specific positions in football that have those superior verticals are WR's, DB's, and RB's... And those three positions require just as much "skill" as a basketball player, and perhaps more.

It seems you reference "football" players as a bunch of guys that just run into each other.. Who are you ? And my guess is that you didn't have much of an athletic career. Did you ever see some of the catches that Larry Fitzgerald makes, did you ever Jerry Rice or Deion Sanders or Randy Moss highlights ??? Or Barry Sanders.. Did you see Jerome Simpson this year literally flip over a guy 8 feet in the air and land on his feet for a TD this year??

Is that because he trained his body specifically to score well on the Vertical Jump test ??? You're silly.

VerticalJumping.com Response: Hi Jason, I don't believe that the statement of football being a game of less skill is really that wrong. A basketball player needs to shoot in a variety of ways such as layups, jumpers, hook shots etc, dribble, pass in a number of different ways such as chest pass, bounce pass, baseball outlet pass, etc, catch and so on.

This is a much wider variety of skills required to play football which are for a quarterback throw and for a receiver catch, and for pretty much everyone else block and tackle. Don't get me wrong, I am not dismissing the athletic talents of Moss, Sanders, Rice and co, and you are right, some of the things these guys have done are jaw droppingly amazing.

What I am saying is that on the whole success in football has a significantly higher correlation with athletic capabilities than in basketball. And this is obvious to anyone who has played both sports.

Also for what it is worth, NFL players are hands down some of the most amazing, powerful people on the planet. I have nothing but the highest level of respect for them and their sport.

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What About LeBron v Tom
by: Anonymous

SO LETS SAY FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE, THAT LEBRON JAMES IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE NBA, AND THAT TOM BRADY IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE NFL... ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT WHAT LEBRON JAMES DOES AS A DOMINATING PLAYER TAKES MORE "SKILL" VS. RAW ATHLETICISM, THAN WHAT TOM BRADY DOES TO BE A DOMINATING PLAYER ??? WHO IS JUST OUT "ATLHETICIZING" THE OPPONENT MORE?? AND THE CONCENTRATION, HAND EYE COORDINATION, ETC REQUIRED TO CATCH A FOOTBALL, WHICH COMES AT A DRAMATICALLY FASTER SPEED, OVER A MUCH LONGER DISTANCE, WHILE YOUR SPRINTING, WITH PLAYERS PUSHING AND SHOVING YOU ND THEN TRYING TO KNOCK YOU UNCONCIOUS, IS UNCOMPARABLE TO CATCHING A BASKETBALL PASS.... RUNNING BACKS HAVE TO RUN, CATCH, AND BLOCK... ALL PLAYERS HAVE TO CONSTANTLY READ THE DEFENSIVE COVERAGES, BLITZ SCHEMES, ETC. IN BASKETBALL AREN'T YOU FOR THE MOST PART JUST SIMPLY REACTING ???

Verticaljumping.com Response: Interesting argument you put forward, although not at all consistent with your original comment. In your original comment you argued your point based on receivers, now it is based on a quarterback, which is possibly the least athletic position in football, and compare that against the single biggest athletic freak in basketball (if not all sports).

The original article talked about why NFL players on the whole jump so high and the basis of my argument was that their sport is significantly more power based than basketball which has players running up and down and doing all sorts of things that aren't about all out explosive power.

In the game of football just about any time a players is moving that movement is being done at maximum intensity for a few seconds, then the play stops, everyone resets, and then they go at it hard again. These displays of incredible power are part of what make the game of football so awesome - especially when combined with the skills of catching and throwing the ball against highly complex defenses as you point out.

I am not saying football isn't a skillful game. Clearly it is. Nor am I saying it is better or worse than basketball, it is just different with different demands.

And as for LeBron, yes on many plays he does simply out athleticise people, but that isn't what makes him the best player in the NBA. It is his combination of athleticism and basketball skill that make him great. GO and watch the game a few years ago against the Pistons where he took over and scored something like 29 of the Cavs last 31 points to win the game.

That is possibly the most dominant performance by LeBron he has ever had. What you will see is yes, a ridiculous hammer dunk, but you will also see a lot of hand in your face fade away jump shots from range. That is a result of his skill more than his athleticism.

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